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"Without the State, what would prevent Al Capone from forcing you to pay a fee in order to not go to a prisonhouse?" is a typical expression of the Hobbesian myth. The Hobbesian posits that in a state of decentralized law enforcement, i.e. anarchy, lawlessness, chaos and despotism will ensue. In this subreddit, we debunk this myth and explain how decentralized law enforcement is in fact preferable to subjugation to a monopolistic sovereign standing above The Law.

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Subjugation is not protection.

r/HobbesianMyth
902 months ago

Thinking in terms of "private vs public" sector just confuses. Indeed, the "private sector" can technically have thugs too. A more clear distinction is "VOLUNTARY versus COERCIVE sector": the thugs in the "private sector" AND the State operatives are part of the same problem which anarchy solves.

r/HobbesianMyth
722 months ago

Truly makes you think...

r/HobbesianMyth
742 months ago

"Private vs public sector" is a confused view. The real distinction is "voluntary vs coercive sector". Anarchists want a society of only voluntary exchanges - we recognize that non-Statist actors can also be a threat to that vision, hence why we prefer to think in terms of the latter instead.

r/HobbesianMyth
452 months ago

The "social contract" should more aptly be called the "social subjugation"

r/HobbesianMyth
302 months ago

Something to remember is that public officials are also private individuals with private desires. People are seriously trying to make us believe that Donald Trump and other politicians are ruthless businessmen in the private sector, but once in the public sector are benevolent selfless servants.

r/HobbesianMyth
302 months ago

"Collective security, it would seem, is not better than private security. Rather, it is the private security of the state, S, achieved through the expropriation, i.e., the economic disarmament, of its subjects."

r/HobbesianMyth
302 months ago

Many point out that some thuggish private actors have hired mercenaries and thus argue that Statelessness will inevitably lead to such gangsterism. Anarchists strive to suppress such thugs too: it's just the case that the public sector is ALWAYS gangsterism, while the private isn't that always.

r/HobbesianMyth
202 months ago

Some examples of long-lasting decentralized law enforcement.

r/HobbesianMyth
202 months ago

Anarcho-capitalism could be understood as "Rule by natural law through judges" - of judges who impartially and faithfully interpret how natural law should be enforced for specific cases and of voluntarily funded law enforcers which blindly adhere to these judges' verdicts and administer them.

r/HobbesianMyth
242 months ago